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Allen Fordyce Herbert

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Portrait, Allan Herbert in Cairo in 1943 (detail of the photograph Group, WW2, 2 soldiers, brothers) - This image may be subject to copyright

Portrait, Allan Herbert in Cairo in 1943 (detail of the photograph Group, WW2, 2 soldiers, brothers) …

Identity

About

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  • Title
  • Forenames
    Allen Fordyce AWMM
  • Surname
    Herbert AWMM
  • Ingoa
  • Also known as
  • Service number
    26173 AWMM
  • Gender
    Male AWMM
  • Iwi / Hapū / Waka / Rohe
  • Religion
    Presbyterian, Christian AWMM

Civilian life

About birth

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  • Birth
    26 June 1907 AWMM Rawene, Northland AWMM
  • Date of birth
  • Place of birth
  • Birth notes
  • Address before enlistment
    Unknown AWMM Whangae, Kawakawa, New Zealand AWMM
  • Post war occupation
    Farmer/Civilian AWMM
  • Next of kin on embarkation
    Mr J.N. Herbert (father), Utakura, New Zealand AWMM
  • Relationship status
    Pre 23 August 1940 AWMM Single AWMM

Service

Wars and conflicts

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  • War
    World War II, 1939-1945 AWMM
  • Campaign
  • Armed force / branch
    Army AWMM
  • Service number
    26173 AWMM
  • Military service
  • Promotions/ Postings/ Transfers

Military decorations

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Training and Enlistment

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  • Military training
    Papakura Camp - May-August 1940 AWMM
  • Branch Trade Proficiency
  • Enlistment
    WW2 Unknown AWMM
    Age 32 AWMM
    Farmer/Civilian AWMM
    Kaikohe, Northland AWMM
  • Occupation before enlistment
  • Age on enlistment

Embarkations

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Prisoner of war

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  • Capture details
  • Days interned
  • Liberation date
  • Liberation Repatriation
  • POW liberation details
  • POW serial number

Medical history

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  • Medical notes
    • Hospital Diseases , Wounds, WWII AWMM
      Had bad outbreak of eczema in 1943 and was treated at New Zealand Divisional Hospital, Maadi Camp, Cairo. AWMM
    • Hospital Diseases , Wounds, WWII AWMM
      Broke his kneecaps falling off Indian Motorbike in desert while on patrol. AWMM
    • Died from Natural Causes, Cause of Death AWMM
      Died of natural causes AWMM

Last known rank

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  • Last rank
    WW2 20 December 1944 AWMM Sergeant AWMM

Biographical information

Biographical information

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  • Excerpts from his diary are as follows :

    January, 1944

    7 January, 1944 1st party left Maadi

    8 January, 1944 Left camp at 0150 hrs. Tura siding at 0245 hrs. Train broken down. Arrived Tewfik 1450 hrs. Awful trip. Finally aboard the Scythia at 1820 hrs. Packed with Pommies and Pommie Sisters plus Air Force. Have joined up with Keatley's crowd in charge of Detention Cells. Hot as Hell down in stern but most rooms and food good. 12 prisoners, all N.Z. Left Tewfik at 1230hrs. Old tub very slow.

    13 January, 1944 Berthed Aden 1600hrs. Big job. 200 A.Force and 5 Sisters leave us here.

    14 January, 1944 Aden had its second shower of rain in 54 years last night.

    18 Scythia is twin screw; 19450 tons; built 1922, does 14 knots.

    20 Arrived Bombay in morning. Cleared decks for berthing as in Aden. Finally tied up at 1400hrs. Some English troops went off in evening. Scythia carried 5411 passengers and 438 crew.

    21 January, 1944 - Early breakfast at 0600hrs, then dinner at 1100hrs. 1200 hrs went aboard the Mariposa. 1,000 Iti prisoners on board. Pulled out at 1700 hrs. Anchored in stream.

    February 1944 - Melbourne

    5 February 1944 Berthed before 1200hrs. No leave. N.Z. boys for Aussie ashore. The prisoners off first.

    6 February 1944 Left Melbourne at 1415 hrs. Given sheet of instructions and three telegrams to send.

    10 February 1944 Wellington - Berthed at 0830 hrs. Caught the North train at 1340 hrs. Great reception all along the line. Rained a lot of the way. Train was very slow. Arrived in Auckland 0645.

    Married Jean Adkins of Waimate, 16 May 1946. Purchased own dairy farm in Utakura valley, Hokianga in 1948, next to his father's farm. Had one daughter & three sons. Was a member of the Okaihau District School Committee and a Rugby Union Coach for Okaihau Rugby Club.

    Mr Herbert had suffered from Alzheimers for the ten years before he died. AWMM
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Death

About death

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  • Death
    27 September 1987 AWMM
    Age 80 AWMM
    Kaikohe, Northland AWMM
  • Date of death
  • Age at death
  • Place of death
  • Cause of death
    Died from Natural Causes AWMM
  • Death notes
  • Cemetery
    Okaihau Public Cemetery, Okaihau, Northland, New Zealand AWMM
  • Cemetery name
  • Grave reference
  • Obituary
    Death Notice: New Zealand Herald, 29 September 1987 AWMM
  • Memorial name
  • Memorial reference

Memorials

Memorial

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  • Remembering You today Granddad and the sacrifices You and your family made for us and our country. With love Sally Williams -nee Herbert
    Public - Sally Jade - Other Relative - 25 April 2015
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  • Remembering my Father and all his comrades.
    Public - Brenda - Other Relative - 1 March 2015
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Sources

Sources

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  • External links
  • References
    • Burdon, R. (1959). 24 Battalion. Wellington, N.Z.: Department of Internal Affairs, War History Branch. AWMM
      Correspondence with family AWMM
    • The New Zealand Herald AWMM
    • Second New Zealand Expeditionary Force. (1941). Nominal Roll Second New Zealand Expeditionary Force No. 3 (Embarkations from 1st July, 1940 to 31st March, 1941). Wellington, N.Z.: Govt. Printer. AWMM
      WW2 3: WW2 210 AWMM
    • The New Zealand Herald AWMM
      Death Notice: New Zealand Herald, 29 September 1987 AWMM

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DateFirst namesLocationRelationshipContact
25 April 2015Sally JadeWhangarei, New ZealandOther Relative
01 March 2015BrendaWhangarei, New ZealandOther Relative

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