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Victor Idour

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Identity

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    Victor AWMM
  • Surname
    Idour AWMM
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  • Service number
    15513 AWMM
  • Gender
    Male AWMM
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Civilian life

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  • Birth
    22 December 1911 AWMM AWMM
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    Unknown AWMM Alexandra, New Zealand AWMM
  • Post war occupation
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    Mrs E.M. Idour (wife), Alexandra, New Zealand AWMM
  • Relationship status
    Pre 1940-1941 AWMM Married AWMM

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    Italy AWMM
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    Army AWMM
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    15513 AWMM
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    WW2 Unknown AWMM Labourer/Civilian AWMM
    AlexandraOtago AWMM
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    Killed in Action, Cause of Death AWMM

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  • Victor Idour was the son of Richard and Annie Idour, of Dunedin, Otago, New Zealand; husband of Evelyn Mary Idour, of Dunedin, New Zealand.

    Corporal V. Idour, MM, m.i.d.; born NZ 22 Dec 1911; baker; killed in action 27 Feb 1944. (Source: Cody, J.F. 21 Battalion. p.176.)

    'Staff-Sergeant Philip writes:

    [Ten minutes after we started] an Italian soldier joined up with us giving us some Nestles chocolate and a cold cocoa drink, [then] four more Italians thrust themselves upon us insisting on going back with us. [Shortly afterwards we heard] voices ahead, [and] I investigated, taking one of our prisoners on my bayonet. We had run into a strong point overlooked in our advance and I was set upon by several Italians. I was bayonetted and shot through the knee and chin. [Colonel Allen received four bullets in the chest and died about 3 p.m.]… I probably looked very close to dead. I was carrying a bit of loot, a Luger and a Biretta, and had the experience of being looted myself…. When daylight broke an Italian officer … gave us both a drink of water. [About 7 o'clock] two enemy tanks appeared driving a good number of our troops ahead (west)…. I managed to attract the attention of L/Corporal Rex Cross and Pte Victor Idour, both 23rd men… along with another lad they managed to get us on a 15 cwt truck close by…. The driver [turned eastwards, but] ran into a very large mob of Italians … standing at the edge of a minefield … [so we swung back west again]. We then came upon a dressing station set up in the middle of the battlefield and manned by both NZ and Italian orderlies and treating German, Italian and NZ wounded. To my knowledge there was no medical officer and the orderlies had just banded together and were treating the wounded irrespective of nationality.

    23 Battalion - On 24 February A Company moved up Route 6 in preparation for an attack which was postponed because the weather broke, and the heavy rains not only waterlogged airfields in the rear but also rendered impracticable the employment of tanks in an approach to Cassino. B Company had reverted to the command of the 23rd and, with D also, moved into position on Route 6. The battalion felt it was shaping up for the attack, but time and time again orders were cancelled or altered. And still the shelling continued. On 27 February Battalion Headquarters was heavily shelled—two were killed and nine wounded. One of those killed was the RAP Corporal, ‘Vicky’ Idour, whose gallantry in attending the wounded under all sorts of fire had become something of a legend in the battalion and had earned him the Military Medal and a mention in despatches. The three officers wounded were Second-Lieutenant Mackie, the IO, Captain D. B. Robertson, the MO, and Second-Lieutenant Rex Musgrave, the former RSM, who had been commissioned in the field for his sterling service. Captain Alan Wilson, a former MO of the 23rd, came up on 29 February to relieve until Captain Robertson was fit to return. Another change in command came to 5 Brigade at this stage: Brigadier J. T. Burrows, a South Islander trained in the 20th in the Kippenberger tradition, took command on 28 February.' (Source: Cody, J.F. 21 Battalion. p. 176.; Ross, A. 23 Battalion. p. 319.) AWMM
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Death

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  • Death
    27 February 1944 AWMM
    Age 33 AWMM
    ItalyEurope AWMM
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    Cassino War Cemetery, Italy AWMM Joint grave X. B. 1 AWMM
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    • Second New Zealand Expeditionary Force. (1941). Nominal Roll Second New Zealand Expeditionary Force No. 3 (Embarkations from 1st July, 1940 to 31st March, 1941). Wellington, N.Z.: Govt. Printer. AWMM
      WW2 3: WW2 232 AWMM
    • 21 Battalion (Official history of New Zealand in the Second World War 1939-45) AWMM
      p.176. AWMM
    • Ross, A. (1959). 23 Battalion. Wellington, N.Z.: Department of Internal Affairs, War History Branch. AWMM
      pp.173, 319. AWMM
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