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John Albert Norman Pay

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Identity

About

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  • Title
  • Forenames
    John Albert Norman AWMM
  • Surname
    Pay AWMM
  • Ingoa
  • Also known as
  • Service number
    71407 AWMM
  • Gender
    Male AWMM
  • Iwi / Hapū / Waka / Rohe
  • Religion

Civilian life

About birth

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  • Birth
  • Date of birth
  • Place of birth
  • Birth notes
  • Address before enlistment
    • Unknown AWMM C/o Modern Furniture Company Ltd, Dunedin, New Zealand AWMM
    • Unknown AWMM C/o Modern Furniture Company Ltd, Dunedin, New Zealand AWMM
    • Unknown AWMM C/o Modern Furniture Company Ltd, Dunedin, New Zealand AWMM
  • Post war occupation
  • Next of kin on embarkation
    • Mrs M.A. Pay (mother), 664 New North Road, Auckland, New Zealand AWMM
    • Mrs M.A. Pay (mother), 664 New North Road, Auckland, New Zealand AWMM
    • Mrs M.A. Pay (mother), 664 New North Road, Auckland, New Zealand AWMM
  • Relationship status

Service

Wars and conflicts

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  • War
    World War II, 1939-1945 AWMM
  • Campaign
  • Armed force / branch
    Army AWMM
  • Service number
    71407 AWMM
  • Military service
  • Promotions/ Postings/ Transfers

Military decorations

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Training and Enlistment

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Prisoner of war

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  • Capture details
  • Days interned
  • Liberation date
  • Liberation Repatriation
  • POW liberation details
  • POW serial number

Medical history

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  • Medical notes
    Accidental Death, Cause of Death AWMM
    Accidentally killed on active service AWMM

Last known rank

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Biographical information

Biographical information

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    • Son of John Edward and Mary Pay of Onerahi, Northland, New Zealand.

      Husband of Mary Ann Pay of Ravensbourne, Otago, New Zealand. Father of Lorraine

      Killed during an accident with a grenade in Italy. AWMM
    • Father of Gaynor Elaine Public - Tania - Direct descendant - 1 November 2023 - My mother is Gaynor, my grandfather and grandmother were separated at the time of his death. He was my grandfather
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Death

About death

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  • Death
    13 February 1945 AWMM
    Age 25 AWMM
    Italy, Europe AWMM
  • Date of death
  • Age at death
  • Place of death
  • Cause of death
    Accidental Death AWMM
  • Death notes
  • Cemetery
    Faenza War Cemetery, Italy AWMM I. B. 7. AWMM
  • Cemetery name
  • Grave reference
  • Obituary
  • Memorial name
  • Memorial reference

Memorials

Memorial

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  • Memorial name
    Family grave memorial, Onerahi Public Cemetery, Whangarei, New Zealand AWMM

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  • I am the youngest child of his daughter Gaynor. Several family members have visited his grave in Faenza Italy. I will travel there soon. I heard it is a very moving experience and the graves are very well looked after. I wish I had meet him.
    Public - Tania Maree - Direct descendant - 16 March 2016
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Sources

Sources

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  • External links
    Commonwealth War Graves Commission record
    https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/2237702
    Sources Used
  • References
    • Puttick, E. (1960). 25 Battalion. Wellington, N.Z.: Department of Internal Affairs, War History Branch. AWMM
    • Second New Zealand Expeditionary Force. (1942). Nominal Roll Second New Zealand Expeditionary Force No. 7 (Embarkations from 1st January, 1942 to 31st March, 1942). Wellington, N.Z.: Govt. Printer. AWMM
      WW2 7: WW2 111 AWMM
    • Second New Zealand Expeditionary Force. (1945). Nominal Roll Second New Zealand Expeditionary Force No. 9 (Embarkations from 1st July, 1942 to 31st December, 1942). Wellington, N.Z.: Govt. Printer. AWMM
      WW2 9: WW2 311 AWMM
    • Second New Zealand Expeditionary Force. (1945). Nominal Roll Second New Zealand Expeditionary Force No. 14 (Embarkations from 1st April, 1944 to 31st December, 1944). Wellington, N.Z.: Govt. Printer. AWMM
      WW2 14: WW2 77 AWMM
    • Borman, C. (1954). Divisional Signals. Wellington, N.Z.: Department of Internal Affairs, War History Branch. AWMM
    • Information kindly provided by family AWMM
    • The parting of the ways : a souvenir record of the triumphs, tribulations and maritime musings of returning draft H.M.N.Z.T No. 217, 'Zealandic'. January 18th, 1919 to February 26th, 1919. AWMM

Contributors

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DateFirst namesLocationRelationshipContact
01 November 2023TaniaAuckland New Zealand Direct descendant
14 March 2022Ian BanksTaumarunui New ZealandResearcher
16 March 2016Tania MareeAuckland, New ZealandDirect descendant

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